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Mark Tomlinson
01-17-2008, 11:26 PM
I just posted a question to Ian on the FlyTheRoad forum. I don't know if he'll catch it. My concern is that we're hearing a lot about how the vehicle will look, but the drive train and the frame need some serious engineering too.

Tesla Motors got caught with an under-engineered gearbox. Those in the know might argue it's because they went with two speeds instead of Martin Eberhard's original proposal of one speed. But the fact is they shopped it out to two different companies and neither could take the stresses of a full-torque-from-zero electric motor. That could easily have been true of a one-speed gearbox as well. Now they've shopped it out to two more suppliers and are going to ship the car with a crippled transmission and a promise to replace it.

Additionally, motor controllers, regeneration profiles, anti-lock braking profiles, traction control, and a host of other concerns require a great deal of engineering.

Plus, the frame of the car must be light and durable. It must perform well in a crash test (simulated or otherwise).

There is a lot of work ahead, and I hope there are people working on these things even while we are gawking at foam mock-ups. I trust that much of it is shopped out to the business partners.

But now that we are winding down on our arguments over whether D should have C's nose or what have you, it's time to hear how the real meat of the vehicle is progressing.

Bladerunner
01-18-2008, 01:25 AM
Dude have you been going to the Rogwild school of pessimism? Just because Tesla motors is making a high dollar car it doesn’t mean a whole lot. They have a bunch of theorist onboard- I never saw them partner with anyone that has actually done anything (vehicle wise) other than Junk yard boy who is their chief Tech officer.
I think Ian and crew have the best possibility of making this work not just because who they are and that it isn’t just a money making goal – I truly believe Ian wants this as bad for him as we want it. And at least they have some smart savvy partners.

And we are a bunch of fans not people on the board of directors… they (Vv)aren’t sharing everything… we aren’t going to solve their engineering and they certainly aren’t stupid.

AZEqualizer
01-18-2008, 09:28 AM
Ian had this to say over at the FTR site

"The frame has to have all the durability and safety considerations engineered into it. Plus, keeping it light weight. I'm sure you got all these things on a master plan someplace. But could you reassure your rabid fans?"

Our VP of Engineering comes to us from his previous senior engineering positions at Ford, Jaguar and Lotus. I'll introduce you to him soon, but rest assured that we're hard at work on the spaceframe as we speak. -IanBruce Posted: FTRsite 2008-01-18

randi
01-18-2008, 04:21 PM
Dude have you been going to the Rogwild school of pessimism [and MicroManagement, added by randi]?

... And we are a bunch of fans not people on the board of directors… they (Vv)aren’t sharing everything… we aren’t going to solve their engineering and they certainly aren’t stupid."

Yup!=y: