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CelticFlyer
04-27-2008, 06:53 PM
Here's my latest endeavor: a vector art rendering of the VentureOne. Vector art is cool because theoretically, you can resize it to virtually ANY size, and it won't lose it's sharpness or detail. I've still got a little ways to go, but this is my first "venture" into creating vector art from scratch using Adobe Illustrator.

So please, be gentle with me... =D

Here's the wireframe drawing I created using cpaddock's art as a starting point, which was rendered using an actual photo of the V1 mockup at the X-Prize competition recently.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo.jpg

And here's what I've done so far:

1. Redefined the basic shape a little.

2. Eliminated plot points, which helped smooth out curves.

3. Changed the line weights for various parts, depending on the detail involved in each section.

4. Added color.

5. Applied gradient fills to give the color depth.

I've still got a lot more work to do (most notably, in the wheel area). I'll be tackling that in the days ahead.

Enjoy! ;)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-Rev1.jpg

cpaddock
04-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Howzit Celtic! You amaze me! Thanks for the continuing output of visual stunners.
This bad boy looks really Hornet-like (in a good way!).
Mahalo!
Curves Ahead!

AKP23
04-27-2008, 07:59 PM
Celtic, awsome job! I can't color it to look 3D like you do, but it gives me something to experiment with. Thanks!

Mountain roads!

CelticFlyer
04-27-2008, 09:00 PM
Thanks! That manual on Illustrator has already paid for itself. I'm getting the knack of the program, but I still have to get used to some of it's features.

I would love to be able to create one of those rotating 3D models Ian posted for us earlier. That's a whole different program, though.

RAN
04-27-2008, 10:20 PM
Celtic, you're a Wizard! Thanks for all the great images! :Beer:

MarkH
04-28-2008, 02:02 PM
Incredible Celtic. Thanks!

Baja_Traveler
04-28-2008, 04:51 PM
Well - you got the color right anyway!

Awesome job... Before we know it we'll have a full blown video game with all the talent here. =D

Satt
04-29-2008, 07:55 AM
Well - you got the color right anyway!

Awesome job... Before we know it we'll have a full blown video game with all the talent here. =D

Sounds like a challenge to me!!! :IDEA: :cool:

Derwin
04-29-2008, 08:26 AM
I think a video game would be a pretty cool idea. Actually, I posted this idea about 5 months ago when the club was a little newer. This type of project would take a whole lot of creativity and money to get going, but I think it can be done.

We're currently working on the r/c project, but I think a unique and exciting video game could be our next project to work on. Heck, at least it will make the wait for the real v1a little easier to take!

Let me know what you guys think.

Derwin

MarkH
04-29-2008, 03:23 PM
I was just thinking about that yesterday. Sounds like a completely do-able plan. To make it easier we could just come up with a car for one of the driving games like Need For Speed.

Something to ponder...

MarkH
04-29-2008, 04:29 PM
Hi-De-Ho Neighbors,

I found something that we may want to look at:

http://www.racer.nl/

Design your car, number of wheels not an issue, design a road course and drive like the wind.

I was looking in to this back when I was trying to design cars for Need for Speed. It has been significantly updated since then.

Have a look and tell me what you think.

Baja_Traveler
04-29-2008, 08:30 PM
I was just thinking about that yesterday. Sounds like a completely do-able plan. To make it easier we could just come up with a car for one of the driving games like Need For Speed.

Something to ponder...

Exactly - just as you can download a custom airplane and fly it in MS Flight Simulator, we need a V1 designed for an existing game. The difficulty may be the "behind the wheel" view because we'd want the horizon to tilt (which the programmers don't have to worry about with a normal car). But - if the program already supports a motorcycle view it would be much easier on the import.

rogwild
04-30-2008, 02:43 AM
I think a video game would be a pretty cool idea. Actually, I posted this idea about 5 months ago when the club was a little newer.
Derwin

Try 10 months ago:
http://flytheroad.com/blog/forums/topic.php?id=308&replies=6#post-3981

CelticFlyer
04-30-2008, 10:03 AM
I'm still refining my illustration. Submitted for your review is Rev 1.

This time, I used photos of the actual mockup to clear up some design flaws with my earlier drawings. I've tweaked the lines a little and came up with a more faithful rendering. I STILL need to get to work on those rims. They're going to be a real challenge. Oh well, here goes...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-r1.jpg

Once I get the V1 done to my satisfaction, I'm going to add the FTRC shield behind it.

CelticFlyer
05-04-2008, 10:47 PM
Here's a preliminary comprehensive design. I've added some detail to the rendering. This is a hodge podge of the art cpaddock gave me to work with, and a couple of pix of the actual VentureOne mockup used in New York. I took some creative liberties where needed. It's pretty close to the real deal. Of course, I will change it as needed in the future, but at least I got something to work with.

The club type is temporary; I just wanted to get the spacing right. A little more work remains to be done on the vehicle and shield, but this is what I've got so far:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-r2.jpg

Baja_Traveler
05-05-2008, 12:42 AM
That is some way cool artwork there!

I want that on a white t-shirt asap!!

CelticFlyer
05-05-2008, 09:43 AM
Hey thanks! I enjoyed drawing this, although it was a little trying at times given that I'm not entirely familiar with Adobe Illustrator. It was a great exercise, and now I feel experienced enough to try my hand at a few other potential projects.

The EPS file from which this drawing is made is 4 mb. Can I attach a file of this size to a post in this forum?

Y'all are free to use this pic as you like, but I'd rather you wait until the "final" version is ready, and once I figure out how to give you the best quality file! ;)

cpaddock
05-05-2008, 12:17 PM
Howzit Celtic! You DID it! Curved reflections, disc brake, sheild, even the tread lines of the front tire! Awsome! Really great way to start my week! I will wait for further refinements, but y'all should know you can save this image to your VV file, and with a trip to office max you can pick up a pack of printable transfer film and do your own tee shirts. Thank goodness for this forum!
Curves Ahead!

cpaddock
05-05-2008, 01:12 PM
To create your own tee shirt transfer go to www.avery.com Click "products", click
"printable crafts", click "fabric transfers". I just ordered a box of six sheets! The product rewiews well. Can't wait to wear one!

BeepBeep
05-05-2008, 01:33 PM
Your image would really make an awsome hat patch. Nice job!!

CelticFlyer
05-05-2008, 11:39 PM
I aim to please! ;)

I'm going to attach a high-resolution version of the art to this post. Let me know if you can download and print it out, and if the quality is good, okay?

Remember...this is still a "work in progress!" =D

CelticFlyer
05-06-2008, 11:23 PM
Well, so much for trying to attach the high-res version of the art to a post! :rolleyes:

If anyone would like a high-res graphic, just PM me your email address and I'll be happy to comply. Give me a day or so, though. I've gotta fix a couple of things and finalize the design. As soon as the art is ready, I'll email everyone who wants it. I saved a pdf file of it and took it to work to print it out on our high-quality inkjet proofer. It came out GREAT! It's the same printer I used to print my "poster."

Get me your email addresses! (I'll keep 'em safe.) =y:

MarkH
05-07-2008, 01:19 AM
Well, so much for trying to attach the high-res version of the art to a post! :rolleyes:

If anyone would like a high-res graphic, just PM me your email address and I'll be happy to comply. Give me a day or so, though. I've gotta fix a couple of things and finalize the design. As soon as the art is ready, I'll email everyone who wants it. I saved a pdf file of it and took it to work to print it out on our high-quality inkjet proofer. It came out GREAT! It's the same printer I used to print my "poster."

Get me your email addresses! (I'll keep 'em safe.) =y:

WaaHoo Celtic, you have out done yourself my friend. There is a local outfit that can take a jpg and embroider it on to a hat. If I can track them down I'm going to take that image (with your kind permission of course) and have a hat made. They seem to show up at the local trade shows and town festivals this time of year so it shouldn't be too hard to find them.

well done!

BTW, PM sent.

CelticFlyer
05-07-2008, 02:52 PM
Finally approaching the home stretch here, fellas. I've got a list of folks who asked for the original high-resolution art file. I will be forwarding it to everyone who asks in a couple of days.

In the meanwhile, here's the latest version of the FTRC "logo." It's really more of a site-booster, since it hasn't been given Derwin's blessing...yet.

Hope you like it! ;)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-r3.jpg

cpaddock
05-07-2008, 03:08 PM
Celtic Flyer, let me be the first to say "Congratulations"! Your work is stunning! Jaw drop gorgeous! Thank you for your energy and dedication. Looking forward to the updated file
and to the tee shirts, posters, badges to follow.
Curves Ahead!
Aloooooha!

CelticFlyer
05-07-2008, 03:30 PM
Hey man, glad you like it. I should be thanking YOU, by the way.

It was your sketch that got my butt motivated to producing the vector art! So let me THANK YOU! ;)

In case you guys didn't know, cpaddock's draft of the new site signage was my inspiration. So please give him a nod as well. He's got true talent; he can draw. The computer makes my work a lot better than my actual artistic abilities would have you believe! :LOL:

Derwin
05-07-2008, 03:35 PM
CF,

I really like your sign art, and I don't think you need my "blessing" since you have the blessing of so many others!

As far as the club logo is concerned, I would like to talk with you about "goosing" it up a little. I can provide you with all of the ORIGINAL files that I have. I am thinking that I would like to update it with the new vehicle design, and maybe do a few other things with it. What do you think?

Derwin

P.S. Then we can start pumping out some new logo merchandise! =y:

rogwild
05-07-2008, 04:05 PM
MarkH, if you take the .jpg to an embroider to get a hat done; also take blank 3 1/2" disk or memory stick, and ask them if they will also download you a copy of the 'stitch file' (different formats for different machines). I have a home embroidery machine (and software) that will convert their 'stitch file' to many different formats that I can post, then people can take the file to their local embroidery shop and get hats/shirts done. If they decline, tell them that they must then delete the .jpg (so that they cannot use it to make other products). Might not change their minds, but worth a try.

Once we have a final design and good .jpg/.cpx image, I plan to make a nice V~1 design, but 'digitizing' from scratch (not having the computer come up with all the parameters) gives me much more control of the order in which each area is stitched out, the slant and density of the stitching, right down to placing individual stitches. A good design takes many hours to design, test-stitch, and perfect; but usually looks/sews better than a computer 'generated' design. Right now, I don't want to put the time/effort into something that may change significantly before the final design is established.

CelticFlyer
05-07-2008, 05:56 PM
I really like your sign art, and I don't think you need my "blessing" since you have the blessing of so many others!

I'm happy that some of you have expressed your appreciation of this rendering. I've got a couple more weak areas to address. Once they're taken care of, I'll be sending a high-res file to everyone who asked for it.

Derwin, I STILL want to have your approval. This site is your baby, and I wouldn't want to paint it in anything but the best possible light. Needless to say, what you say goes! I'm open to your suggestions. By the way, I'm also considering offering the V1 in several colors, once I nail down the "final" version.

I would enjoy having the opportunity to update the site logo. I like it the way it looks now, but I suppose it could use a refreshening. I don't necessarily think it's too important to render the V1 exactly as it appears, since that is subject to change. Rather, I think it would be good if you just got something that suggests the basic shape and/or function of the V1. That way, the logo will be good for years to come! Email me whatever you've got and I'll start tinkering...:cool:

johnhead
05-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Great work.. I am not worthy... However, attached is a crude modification of your excellent work, offering two "suggestions".
I have made the left side show the "grey headlight area". I believe that from the perspective you are showing, the left side "grey area" could be seen. The only other thing that I modified were the lights themselves. I VERY CRUDELY tried to make them look like they were pointed more in a downward direction then you show in your drawing... See what YOU think? Again I am not worthy of your excellent artistic abilities...
Highest Regards
John

CelticFlyer
05-07-2008, 08:16 PM
That's a GREAT suggestion, John. I'll work those in as well. Funny that you mentioned this, as I had quickly added a couple of items and moved on, neglecting to add the attention to detail some items required!

Creating these drawings is like that; you get the rough draft done quickly, but the detailing is where you end up spending so much time.

Thanks for your help. I'll be sure to incorporate these elements in my final art. ;)

MarkH
05-08-2008, 01:56 AM
MarkH, if you take the .jpg to an embroider to get a hat done; also take blank 3 1/2" disk or memory stick, and ask them if they will also download you a copy of the 'stitch file' (different formats for different machines). I have a home embroidery machine (and software) that will convert their 'stitch file' to many different formats that I can post, then people can take the file to their local embroidery shop and get hats/shirts done. If they decline, tell them that they must then delete the .jpg (so that they cannot use it to make other products). Might not change their minds, but worth a try.

Once we have a final design and good .jpg/.cpx image, I plan to make a nice V~1 design, but 'digitizing' from scratch (not having the computer come up with all the parameters) gives me much more control of the order in which each area is stitched out, the slant and density of the stitching, right down to placing individual stitches. A good design takes many hours to design, test-stitch, and perfect; but usually looks/sews better than a computer 'generated' design. Right now, I don't want to put the time/effort into something that may change significantly before the final design is established.

Will Do Rogwild. It will be a couple of weeks before I can get on the case though. I'm working in Honolulu for the next three weeks and will not be going home to PA for the weekends like I usually do. I'll keep the group in the loop as I track these folks down.

Thanks!

cpaddock
05-08-2008, 12:42 PM
Mark, if you have time for a side trip to Maui you would be more than welcome to stop by my studio for a visit. Its kinda lonely out here, being the only push pin in the map.... There is an embroidery co. here and I will try to get a stich file from them as well.
Alooooooooha!

MarkH
05-08-2008, 01:34 PM
cpaddock I would I love to stop by your studio. I'm not sure what my wife is going to have planned. She is arriving tomorrow to spend the next two weeks with me. I'm working, she is going to be on vacation. If we decide to do a side trip to Maui I'll let you know.

Thanks for the invite!

Derwin
05-08-2008, 01:44 PM
Hey, where's MY invitation?

Derwin

cpaddock
05-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Hey Derwin, of course you are welcome as well, and this goes for all y'all tilting trike fans.
Better get here soon, before airline tickets get too expensive. :) If I have my V1 when you come over, you can take her for a spin/lean out the Hana Highway. (after signing over your life savings, of course!)
Curves ahead!
alooooha!

rogwild
05-08-2008, 05:58 PM
There is an embroidery co. here and I will try to get a stich file from them as well.
Alooooooooha!

cpaddock; Embroidery shops usually charge a 'set-up' fee for normal hand digitized designs that can range from $50-100, depending on the complexity, size, number of colors, etc. The advent of the 'computer generated' designs should have reduced (or perhaps eliminated) these charges. The current generation of 'computer designs' are very good and should produce acceptable results, except for very complicated designs. Please keep us informed.

With my present (older) program I can 'edit' designs to make minor stitch changes, and convert and save the following embroidery formats:
Pfaff = .pcs
Melco = .exp
Tajima = .dst
Husqvarna = .hus
Toyota = .10o
Brother PES/PEC = .pes/.pec
Janome = .sew
Compucon/Singer PSW = .xxx

I also have a '3D' program that will depict what a 'stiched out' design will look like.

Baja_Traveler
05-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Hey ! What's with the San Diego Chargers themed VV? The Buc's ain't gonna like it - ;)

CelticFlyer
05-08-2008, 09:47 PM
That's funny. It's not the first time someone took exception to the color based on a sports team preference. Oh well, can't please everyone! :LOL:

Meanwhile, I brought my file into work today and produced this 24" x 30" poster of the art so far. Everything is as I expected, except for the VV logo on the V1's snout. For some reason, the white fill changed to yellow. I'll figure it out. I've got an idea why that happened, and I'll correct it soon.

I still have to make a few other mods to the art, thanks in part to johnhead, who brought some glaring oversights to light!

Overall, I'm very pleased with the way the poster was rendered. Increasing the size of the image from 8" to 28" in height did not in the least compromise the quality. Gotta love those vector graphics, eh?

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/IMG_9782.jpg

CelticFlyer
05-09-2008, 12:28 PM
I'm lucky as I've got a friend who's also got one of those computerized embroidery machines. He's already offered to generate an embroidered shirt for me, once I give him the final art. He loves doing the embroidery as much as I enjoy creating the art!

Speaking of which, I've updated the art to include more detail and it now reflects the changes johnhead recommended.

Derwin
05-09-2008, 12:34 PM
CF,

Did you get my email with the club logo files? Just wondering.

By the way, VERY nice poster!

Derwin

cpaddock
05-09-2008, 12:40 PM
Man that poster just KNOCKS ME OUT! YOU DA MAN! What a pool of talent we have in this group! There may be hope for humanity yet.
Curves Ahead!

CelticFlyer
05-09-2008, 01:06 PM
Yes, I did and I apologize for not responding sooner! I checked my emails at work and got distracted, so I failed to reply. Sorry! And BIG THANKS for sharing them with me.

I'm really looking forward to sinking my teeth into those files! ;)

I'll have some free time once I finalize the V1 graphic. I was thrilled to see my 'lil ole drawing that big. Of course, the need for greater detail revealed itself in the process. D'oh! =D

And thanks to you too, cpaddock. I'm glad you like it.


CF,

Did you get my email with the club logo files? Just wondering.

By the way, VERY nice poster!

Derwin

CelticFlyer
05-11-2008, 07:57 PM
I think I'm about 95% complete with my vector rendering of the V1 based on the art cpaddock supplied, the mockup at the X-Prize competition, and some Internet sources.

Here's the latest:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-r4.jpg

I'm still not thrilled with the way a couple of things came out, so I'll be tinkering with the drawing over the next couple of days. A bulk of the work is done; I just want to fine-tune a couple of things. Again, I hope y'all like it so far.

My next rendering will most likely be my last as I'm pretty satisfied with most of the illustration. ;)

waboom
05-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Wow.... just amazing work there, CF. Thanks so much for sharing your talent with the rest of us.

RAN
05-11-2008, 09:46 PM
Excellennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt!!!!!!!!!

victrolakid
05-12-2008, 12:49 AM
Looks great. In fact I think that is going to be my new desktop background.

CelticFlyer
05-12-2008, 10:06 AM
Thanks, guys. ;) I appreciate your support. I should have the final rendering for you all in a couple of days. Then, anyone who wants the high-resolution art is welcome to it. Just PM me your email addy and I'll get it to you. Sorry it's taking so long. Rendering can be a tedious process and it eats up more time than you might imagine! With practice, I expect to get better and quicker.

Once I nail down the design, I'm going to render it in various colors. It shouldn't be too difficult; all I've got to do is substitute one color for another in the palette. Yellow is still my fave, though. =y: It's a vibrant, energetic color that is often used on rare and exotic cars.

cpaddock
05-12-2008, 11:40 AM
I can see the sheild border thru the spokes of the front wheel! Now that's attention to detail! She looks like she's about to jump off the page/screen...
Mahaaaaaaaalo!

johnhead
05-12-2008, 02:22 PM
Regards
John

CelticFlyer
05-13-2008, 01:02 PM
I can see the sheild border thru the spokes of the front wheel! Now that's attention to detail! She looks like she's about to jump off the page/screen...

Spokes? Lemme tell you about those spokes... Those spokes are going to be the death of me! :rolleyes: :LOL:

Speaking of which, I'm re-rendering the rear wheel so it looks more like the "real deal." What a pain! But it should look a little better when I'm through. I'm also going to re-do the brake caliper. It's way too big! (Actually, I think most of the top of it is obscured by the steering arm. Once those items are redone, I'll give it my Good Housekeeping seal of approval. ;)

One other thing; I was thinking of adding that flat black body line accent shown on the other renderings (the ones I recolored). It wasn't on Venure Vehicle's mockup, but neither were headlights! I'm thinking it was just an oversight. As I said before, this is more of a hodge podge. There doesn't seem to be one reliable source, as most of what we've seen from VV is drawings and a crude mockup!

CelticFlyer
05-18-2008, 08:10 PM
Okay gang, here's the latest and greatest. I've taken some creative liberties with the design, as I've had conflicting source materials. This is what I consider fundamentally representative of the VentureOne in it's current configuration:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-r5.jpg

Needless to say, it's subject to revision. ;)

Derwin
05-18-2008, 08:19 PM
Great job, CF! It looks really fantastic!

I can't wait to see what ideas you have for the club logo. You are a true "ARTIST". =y:

Derwin

cpaddock
05-18-2008, 08:34 PM
You have done it, again! It's a mean machine like I've never seen that can lean and carve oh so clean! Will you be making posters available thru your graphics company?
I'll take two. Cost per print? Tee shirt coming your way....Free!

cpaddock
05-18-2008, 08:38 PM
OK, OK, I'll wait for the high rez file, and the red feathers when you get a chance.
Aloooooha!
Curves Ahead!

RAN
05-19-2008, 12:29 AM
Excellent work Celtic! :thumbsup:

beeson
05-19-2008, 09:08 AM
Great job. It really looks great except for one thing. Could you possibly make it a color other than yellow (or green). Yellow just makes me throw up in my mouth a little. Now Orange would be very cool. :-)

CelticFlyer
05-19-2008, 09:12 AM
Thanks (again) guys. Y'all know how to make a guy feel appreciated! This has been an enjoyable exercise, and a great learning experience as well. I've certainly acquired valuable skills in the process of creating this drawing. The next ones will be all the easier and hopefully even better!

The club logo is a project I'm looking forward too. ;)

I've added yet one more change to the design; actually, it's more of a slight enhancement. I debated for a while how detailed I wanted to get. Some areas screamed for detail, whereas others seemed better rendered as simple as possible. I am going to render a few in different colors, just as an experiment, but I had to start with yellow because I think the design really pops in that hue. And I'll get you your red feathers, cpaddock.

Once I'm completely satisfied with the design, I will save one in RGB colorspace for the web and one in CMYK for printing purposes. Then everyone who wants it can have the high-resolution art via email.

CelticFlyer
05-19-2008, 09:14 AM
Beeson, you're killin' me! :LOL:

Don't sweat it, I'll get you one in the shade of your choosing soon enough.

But in the meanwhile, don't be so hard on yellow! That's my fave.:cool:

beeson
05-19-2008, 09:22 AM
Thanks Celtic, I'm mostly kidding. It's just that yellow is the color for the university of nike ducks. And I can't stomach that team. Thus the colors yellow and green just turn my stomach.

Never buy anything from Nike.

Derwin
05-19-2008, 09:45 AM
CF, I agree. Maybe we are getting a little bit too frustrated. Hopefully things will be working out a lot better, and the 2010 is simply a CYA timetable. I personally love this company and the vehicle they are coming out with. Nobody else is making anything like it, and that alone is reason enough to keep the faith!


Never buy anything from Nike

Hey, I have a $800 set of Nike Slingshot Golf Clubs!

Derwin

CelticFlyer
05-20-2008, 02:11 AM
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-r6x.jpg

I've got to run this puppy out and see how well it holds up to enlargement. :o

MVRacing
05-20-2008, 02:48 AM
=y: I think it looks super!! =y:

CelticFlyer
05-20-2008, 03:04 AM
Thanks! It's certainly come a long way. And I thought I was "done" with it yesterday, only to find yet another area requiring my attention. I guess it's as "done" as it's going to be...for now. ;)

I mean, there's such a thing as overdesign!

Seeing it at 24" x 30" will be the true test.

danbucks
05-20-2008, 11:10 AM
That is outstanding artwork.
My only problem is: I don't believe that darkened front windshield is legal in CA. How do you see out of that damn thing?

:rolleyes:

rogwild
05-20-2008, 11:56 AM
Maybe that will change,.......when Vv finally decides what the inside will look like.

Baja_Traveler
05-20-2008, 12:44 PM
...I don't believe that darkened front windshield is legal in CA....


You wouldn't know it by looking at all the limo tint in L.A. and Riverside counties!!! They should be handing out tickets left and right - the state could zero out the budget deficit by just enforcing the existing law... :COP:

CelticFlyer
05-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Here's the FINAL version folks, "warts" and all:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-FINAL-grained.jpg

I'll be emailing those who wanted high-resolution versions of this for web and print soon. Hope you like it!

cpaddock
05-25-2008, 01:54 PM
Like it? Its awsome, Dude! Totally tubular! The grainy background was a stroke of genius!
Will you be interested in taking orders for posters thru Fruitridge? If need be I can get it locally, but your high quality standards eliminate any doubts about the outcome. If I go local, is there anything technical I should know such as file transfer to print company, etc.?
Thanks for your commitment to excellence!
Curves Ahead!

CelticFlyer
05-25-2008, 02:13 PM
Thanks! I wanted to give the blue gradient in the background a little more weight without darkening it too much, so I played around with a few filters and narrowed it down to "smudge stick," "sponge," and "film grain," which I eventually settled on. For yours, I will add texture to the "feathers" as well, but remove the gradient fill I currently have in place, otherwise they'll look too pink or washed out.

I also nailed down the drop shadows for the "Curves Ahead" sign and the FTRC type. I wanted it to look embossed, but free-floating over the shield. The Illustrator "drop shadow" looked too pixellated on the poster, so I reverted to using a darkened version of the art on the next-higher layer, reducing it's opacity, and offsetting it in equal increments to make it look as though both items were equally set above the shield.

The front spokes are currently much more accurate than they first appeared; I took the rear wheel, inverted it, and mirrored it to get the "as-close-to-real-life" look as I could. Finally, I reluctantly made a change to the size and placement of the headlights in their buckets. You may not immediately notice it, but the rearward light is actually a little smaller than the one in front, and it's set a little higher in the bucket as well. When I said this illustration is a hodge-podge of numerous sources, I wasn't kidding! I tried to honor several sources simultaneously, which wasn't easy, since the ACTUAL design has YET to be finalized! But this is as far as I'm willing to take it. It's good enough for me, and it is somewhat representative of the V1 in it's current form.

Now to get moving on the revamped site logo...Derwin's waiting! =y:

Insofar as having posters printed up, that can be a costly enterprise. I had 500 posters printed up for the Mustang site on which I last served as moderator. The cost of printing them was nowhere near the cost of shipping them out to those who purchased them! I'd have to crunch some numbers, and get commitments to purchase from those here on the board before I take action on that project, my friend!

RAN
05-25-2008, 02:23 PM
Celtic, it's terrific! Kudos!

Derwin
05-25-2008, 07:01 PM
Great work, Celtic! I love your creativity.

Derwin

CelticFlyer
05-26-2008, 12:06 AM
Thanks, boss. It was fun composing the illustration, even though it was a bit challenging at times. Now onto the site logo... ;)

CelticFlyer
05-27-2008, 09:12 AM
Alright I lied... sort of. I printed out the "final" version of the FTRC poster and wasn't satisfied with the look of the "film grain" fill on the shield. It looked too pixelated, as though it were low-resolution. So I went back to my initial fill of "sponge" and was much happier with the results. So, with out further ado, here is the FINAL version of the FTRC poster. Now I'm going to send out emails containing the original art to those who wanted it.

BTW, the revamped FTRC logo is looking "pretty sweet," as Napoleon Dynamite would say. =D

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-FINAL-WEB.jpg

Derwin
05-27-2008, 10:53 AM
Great work. I even made a few 3-inch buttons using this poster design.

You have new ideas for the logo? Please email them to me so I can take a look. Thanks.

GREAT JOB!

Derwin

CelticFlyer
05-27-2008, 11:17 AM
Yep. Later today, okay? I've got a ton of work, but I DID get something done! =y:

johnhead
05-27-2008, 12:00 PM
Great Work Celtic Flyer...As usual.....
Regards
John

Derwin
05-27-2008, 05:31 PM
Here is a new poster design that Celtic Flyer has come up with. I think it is another example of creative genius!



But he did say that it is just a PRELIMINARY design, and by no means a finished product. Nevertheless....it really looks good!

Derwin

MVRacing
05-27-2008, 05:51 PM
Here is a new poster design that Celtic Flyer has come up with. I think it is another example of creative genius!

But he did say that it is just a PRELIMINARY design, and by no means a finished product. Nevertheless....it really looks good!

Derwin

Celtic does do some really fine work =y:

How about moving the "Club" to the left and extending the "A" (which I think is great) into a sweeping curve the V1 is on?

Derwin
05-27-2008, 06:12 PM
Sounds like a great idea. Celtic is actually still working on this poster, and I really did not have his permission to post this! But I'm sure he wouldn't mine me sharing it with you.

Derwin

rogwild
05-27-2008, 06:36 PM
I think it might be more 'effective' to slant the "R" and "O" toward the "A" (to the right) and slant the "D" to the left. I would also have the "FLY" by itself on the top line (s-t-r-e-a-c-h-e-d out to fill the top) with a 'motion effect' of speed in the lettering. The "THE" could be in the space (on the second row) presently occupied by the "R".
Just a couple suggestions; like the one about V~1 'emerging' from the "A" of the ROAD.

CelticFlyer
05-28-2008, 12:47 AM
I appreciate your support, and value everyone's input. As I told Derwin, this is more of a design study. It's still VERY early in the design process. I was eager to give him a rough sketch of some ideas I was kickin' around.

I appreciate your encouragement, guys! ;)

I'll keep y'all up-to-speed with the new project as I make progress...

rogwild
05-28-2008, 09:43 AM
Thanks, CF, ya do good work! I'm sure it will be first rate, besides looks like we will have a l-o-o-o-n-g time to play with our projects.

tugboatwilly
05-28-2008, 08:01 PM
I'm lovin' it Celtic old chum.Derwin have you thought any more about a Clever like project where the power pod would have a small ICE just for commuting? I see where their information stated that the BETA would get 188MPG and I wonder if it were pushed if it is not a good alternitive untill the battery probelm get refined.

RAN
06-06-2008, 03:38 PM
To create your own tee shirt transfer go to www.avery.com (http://www.avery.com) Click "products", click
"printable crafts", click "fabric transfers".

Dunno how I missed this post earlier, but thanks cpaddock! :Beer:

Derwin
06-06-2008, 04:49 PM
I own a $3,000 sublimation printer which is capable of printing transfers for t-shirts, coffee mugs, plates, plaques, and most any other item that you can sublimate. I can take ANY good graphic file and print it out on sublimation tranfer paper. If anybody is interested, just let me know.

Derwin

SafetyMan
07-30-2008, 02:56 PM
Celticflyer - Hope you don't mind no:wor:thy1but I added something to your club sheild to possibly make it a T-Shirt iron on for making some funds for the club. Hope you like it and hope it attached like it is supposed to.
NEAT NEAT NEAT!!!!!!

Miracleman89
07-31-2008, 01:26 AM
Well I like it!!! What do you think Big D???

Derwin
07-31-2008, 08:37 AM
Pretty cool! Start making the shirts now!

Derwin

CelticFlyer
07-31-2008, 09:48 PM
The idea is sweet. However, you're using an OLD design! Why don't you use the one I finalized?

And if I was going to add anything, it would be cpaddock's commonly used tagline "Curves Ahead" and write it on the sign with the squiggly road, in caps, on either side of the vertical line.

You guys don't need my blessing, though. Do what you want. I just hate seeing the older version of the "logo" being used.

CelticFlyer
08-01-2008, 11:42 AM
Here's the art in it's FINAL version:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/FTRCLogo-FINAL-WEB.jpg

I'm on vacation now and don't have access to all of my source files, but I would certainly be happy to incorporate the changes and additions to my original design as described above... once I return home.

Derwin, I hope you're reading this! I'd rather not have a premature, and in my opinion, lackluster design concept be used to hawk the club. We can do much better than that!

Miracleman89
08-01-2008, 12:36 PM
I agree with you Celtic If we are going to do T-shirts then we need to make them top notch!

MVRacing
08-01-2008, 09:07 PM
con:gra:ts1 I wear a large, put me down for 4.

Miracleman89
08-02-2008, 01:37 AM
Don't laugh I am an XL!

CelticFlyer
08-02-2008, 07:42 PM
Still no word from the Big D as to whether he'll give his seal of approval to the latest-generation art, or to the earlier, "leaves much to be desired version." du:n:n:o(

RAN
08-02-2008, 08:51 PM
Celtic, I know what you went through in coming up with the final "now it's good!" design, so I want whichever one you want! :Beer:

Derwin
08-02-2008, 10:27 PM
Still no word from the Big D as to whether he'll give his seal of approval to the latest-generation art, or to the earlier, "leaves much to be desired version." du:n:n:o(

I've been out having fun at the annual Beushausen Golf Classic. We held it at Silver Lake Country Club this year, and it was fantastic. For the first time in 13 years, I ACTUALLY WON 1st PLACE! I also won "closest to the pin" trophy! Funny thing is...I was losing by 2 strokes going into the 18th hole, which is a very short par 3. This hole has a water hazzard that you must shoot OVER in order to hit the green. Well, I get up there and wacked my trusty 7 iron, and it lands on the center of the green. Then my brother (who has the 2 stroke lead on me) gets up and shanks his ball right into the water! Then he drops, and hits his third shot over the green and into the sand trap, so now he is lying 3 in the trap. He then hits his 4th shot about 10 feet from the hole. Well, I get up to putt for birdie, and just miss the cup by about 2 inches, then tap in for par. All the pressure is now on my brother to make his shot in order to tie me. He tried his best....but the ball rolled just left of the cup..........and I WIN.....I WIN....I WIN! My brother choked on the last hole, and I got par......What a way to end this years tournament!

Anyway.... CF...you have my "holy blessing" on the design, but you really don't need it! no:wor:thy1 It really looks great....and I like it. I think it would look fantastic on cups, hats, shirts, or whatever. Great job, as always! con:gra:ts1

Derwin

RAN
08-03-2008, 02:01 AM
Congratulations Derwin! whooooo hooooooooo! :Beer:

rogwild
08-03-2008, 03:15 AM
cool:thu:mb1 Idea/Design on the T-Shirts, but with 'recent' Non-Developments, think I'll wait to order mine, until Vv demonstrates a 'Running Prototype!cl:ap)1che:ers:1

RAN
08-03-2008, 12:43 PM
cool:thu:mb1 Idea/Design on the T-Shirts, but with 'recent' Non-Developments, think I'll wait to order mine, until Vv demonstrates a 'Running Prototype!cl:ap)1che:ers:1

Hear hear~! che:ers:1

tugboatwilly
08-03-2008, 02:23 PM
Great work Celtic Flyer. although I am not a gamer I can see a lot of fun could be had by the poeple that are.
I am thinking this type of system would open up new Ideas for inovative shape and who knows maybe even a 1.5 door could be explored with the game format.

tugboatwilly
08-03-2008, 02:43 PM
Celtic Flyer I don't know what they are paying you, but believe me it isn't enough.

CelticFlyer
08-03-2008, 10:33 PM
Congrats, Derwin. That sounds like one SWEET VICTORY! =y:

Insofar as getting compensation, I haven't been paid a dime for my work. This has been a labor of love, believe me. I wouldn't put a price on this for anything. Besides, I learned so much in the process of producing the art that I wouldn't feel right accepting anything for it. That said, I still want the latest version to be used. I will make a couple of small additions to the existing art, and then anyone who would like to apply it to wearable items or bric-a-brac are more than welcome to do so.

And RAN and Rogwild, I hear what you're saying and you've got an excellent point. Bring it on, Ian!

CelticFlyer
08-11-2008, 10:42 AM
Here's a pdf file of the art for the proposed tee shirt:

I waxed creative and found that the simple approach was best. I arched the type at the top, as was done on the earlier suggested prototype, but found that it competed with the arched type on the shield. Also, I wanted to add the name of this site to the graphic to imprint it in the minds of those who see the shirt, so I added it to the bottom of the shield. Once that was done, making the type at the top straight seemed like a logical way to "frame" the shield art.

I also changed the spelling of the name "flighway," which I thought was a little clunky and might slow people down when reading it. ("Flighway? What's a 'flighway'?") I realize that it's a derivation of "highway" and "flight" but I thought that "Flyway" was a simpler treatment, and it just seems easier to read.

To dress it up a little, I added a soft glow to the type at the top and bottom, then decided against it because it smacked of overdesign. The only thing I added to the V1 graphic itself was a drop shadow. I thought it helped the vehicle "pop" a little off the shield and gave the drawing a little more visual weight. I hope y'all like it.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee299/GrabberOrange/5d29a930.jpg

cpaddock
08-11-2008, 10:52 AM
Howzit CF! Man I would be proud to wear this! Nice work as usual!
Alooooooooha!

rogwild
08-11-2008, 10:58 AM
A work of ART.

MVRacing
08-11-2008, 11:07 AM
Celtic,
Absolutely wonderful. The V1 really pops!

CelticFlyer
08-11-2008, 11:24 AM
Thanks, guys. It's hard to know when to step away, ya know? I think this version best represents the design for a shirt. I'd be happy to email the actual file to anyone who wishes to have the hi-resolution art. PM me your addy's.

RAN
08-11-2008, 02:20 PM
You did good Celtic! :Beer:

Derwin
08-11-2008, 02:36 PM
Celtic... INCREDIBLE JOB ON THAT DESIGN! Very nice. Now we just need to start putting them on shirts. Would anybody want to order any shirts if I had this done? Post your replies here.

Derwin

BTW.... Please send me the file.... dbeushausen@gmail.com

johnhead
08-11-2008, 03:45 PM
Put me down for two shirts.. You do take Visa card right..?
The VV will be Pantone 108?
;-)
John

johnhead
08-11-2008, 03:47 PM
Oh Yes, make my two....Size Large!

MVRacing
08-11-2008, 05:13 PM
I'm in for a couple ... maybe more if there are color choises.

rogwild
08-11-2008, 05:31 PM
Would anybody want to order any shirts if I had this done?

Not until Vv demonstrates that they can make a 'Running Prototype'!!!!:(

RAN
08-11-2008, 06:34 PM
Not until Vv demonstrates that they can make a 'Running Prototype'!!!!:(

I love the logo... but I have to go with Rog on this one too.

Mark Tomlinson
08-12-2008, 12:01 AM
Not until Vv demonstrates that they can make a 'Running Prototype'!!!!:(
Make that three of us.

Love the vehicle. Love the design. But recent rumors and idle chatter combined with VV's complete silence on the subject have me second guessing the company's viability.

Miracleman89
08-12-2008, 07:07 AM
I too have to agree that my confidence has been rattled. It is the complete silence and lack of response to the rumors and idle chatter rather then the idle chatter and rumors that has rattled me. I have to say over the year and a half I have followed VV and the V1 this is by far been the most disappointing time. I am sickened by the silence, Ian and the crew had to have seen the response from the most recent survey and Ian did not come forward to calm the masses. He allowed the ciaos to ensue and to this day has allowed it to continue. It is like he doesn't even care! I too will wait to see progress!

CelticFlyer
08-12-2008, 11:16 AM
Lucky for me, my MINI purchase has been an excellent distraction for me, otherwise, I'd be as disappointed as you fellas. Ian's funny that way, though. Dead silence for a while, then BAM! He posts a bunch of pix and narrative. Patience, fellow flyers. Keep the faith!

In the meanwhile, I'd love to have a shirt (or two in XL) with my design on it. Talk about stroking your ego! :LOL: Thanks, Derwin for your support and encouragement.

Props to "SafetyMan" for recommending the tag line. I hope he doesn't mind that I doctored it a little; I thought it was for the best, and if my name is attached to anything, I want it to be perfect (at least to me!).

Derwin, I'll send you the art ASAP. =y:

AZEqualizer
08-12-2008, 11:29 AM
Nice job Celtic ... we can tell you are a perfectionist by the quality of your work!!

Tim Hodgetts
08-17-2008, 11:04 AM
cpaddock,

You made the comment that the VV in the drawing (which is AWESOME!!!) looks hornet-like, in a good way. There has been some speculation about a good name for the VV as a standalone product and Hornet might be a viable suggestion.

The Hornet is a good visual simile for a small agile vehicle, so who knows!

RAN
08-17-2008, 11:09 AM
There was an AMC car named the Hornet back in the 70's. Since they've been defunct for many years, the name might be available... but it doesn't bring fond images to anyone who remembers the cars that carried that name.

CelticFlyer
08-17-2008, 02:48 PM
Good point, but perhaps it's time to put a new spin on an old name! A generation (or two) has passed since HORNET was a viable nameplate.

Dodge named their version of the Plymouth "Sapporo" "Challenger" in 1978. That was too soon after the original Challenger ceased production in 1974, in my opinion. People were as disappointed in that choice as they were disappointed by Dodge's use of the "Charger" nameplate on their current four-door sedan; it just doesn't do the the car's heritage justice!

Thanks for the compliment on my drawing, Tim. thu:mbs:up:22 Glad you like it!