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rogwild
07-14-2008, 04:46 PM
Thought I'd start this thread to consolidate the posts and future actions on this project of making a paper model of the V~1. (gotta do 'something' while Vv are making the REAL ONE).
So submit any ideas that you have, and lets see if we can get this idea 'off the drawing board' and onto our desks.

1. I think the original one should be in black & white, to allow everyone to color it to their liking. If this could be done, with the ability for individuals to add color and 'customize' on their computers and print out on a color printer; that would be great.

2. Do we have a 'Project Manager' that would like to officially 'step forward' to take this on?

Derwin
07-14-2008, 06:21 PM
I just wanted to add that I can supply the CAD files to anybody willing to take on this task. The files were released to me for the exclusive use of the club r/c project, but I would be willing to let them be used for this as well. As long as the person wanting the files signs-up for the private forum, and posts their agreement along with others.

So, who would like to take this on?

Derwin

johnhead
07-14-2008, 06:58 PM
Derwin,
Do have a simple three sided view of the latest designed vehicle? I have next week off to work around the house...This could be counted as "working around the house" as long as my wife doesn't find out. I have lots of paper and knives. I just installed a new color cartridge in my printer as well...But NO I will not sign up to HEAD this up. I will provide any updates if I feel any of my work can be utilized...

Derwin
07-14-2008, 07:13 PM
...But NO I will not sign up to HEAD this up. I will provide any updates if I feel any of my work can be utilized...

I think we have a few people that are interested in doing this, but we just needed somebody to post whatever they come up with to this thread. The files that were given to me by Ian, were given for the exclusive use in the r/c project, and I need people to sign the agreement in the private forum before obtaining access to the files.

Anyway, there are already a lot of images that you can draw from if you want to create something. But if you want to use the "official" files, I need you to sign the agreement. It's really no big deal, though.

Derwin

P.S.......Hey, I just checked, and seen that you have already signed the agreement, and are part of the r/c private forum. Please feel free to use the files for this project. Just be sure to post whatever you come up with in this thread. I think the other members would appreciate anything you may post. THANKS!

johnhead
07-14-2008, 08:02 PM
Derwin,
I'm not sure I can open CAD file. What is the format? I can surely handle jpg.s etc. I only need a front, rear, top and side view..to start.. I hope to work in an arbitary scale then If I get a good working "paper model" I can enlarge or reduce it's size to fit MVR's RC model scale, or what ever the group wishes.
Thank's
John

Derwin
07-14-2008, 08:13 PM
Derwin,
I'm not sure I can open CAD file. What is the format?
John

Actually, these are IGES files. They are really detailed, but you need a software program that can open them. I am sure there are many programs that you can obtain free of charge online.....at least a trial version.

Derwin

cpaddock
07-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Johnhead, try www.edrawings.geometricglobal.com for a free trial download of IGES file
reader software. If you are lucky, the file from Ian on the private forum will open like sesame for you. All I could get was a " unsupported file type" box. So I'm back to using the profile with the window rolled down and the the perspective views from the last update. If we get the geometry and connectivity worked out, perhaps Celtic flyer could be persuaded to make nice clean black lines and provide a variety of colored versions for us to download/print out. I'm shooting for a model that is about 8" long. A small machine screw, nut and washers should make an effective tilt pivot. Like I told Derwin, I'd like to see a whoke flock of multicolored V1's hanging in a mobile, drifting lazily in the breeze...
Curves Ahead!

Derwin
07-14-2008, 11:08 PM
cpaddock,

If that software did not work for you, than it most likely won't work for anyone else either. I would suggest using some different type of IGES software program. Once somebody finds one that works, please post it to this thread and help us out.

Thanks.

Derwin

johnhead
07-14-2008, 11:43 PM
Derwin,
Not to worry, I went back to my old posts about front end suspension and low and behold there was the complete 4-views that I was looking for. It is an older form of proposed body style however it is enought to get me "started". Snip Snip paste past. I'm heading off for some stingray bowfishing for the next five days in the Chesepeak however I'll be hard at the VV "doll up" when I get back.
John

TazmanianKoala
07-15-2008, 09:06 AM
A small model of about 8" like cpaddock suggested would be fine for a start, but I would also like to "build" my own model twice that size. Of course the larger one should be more detailed. It is just to have my own V~1 on my desk.
If the R/C model is ready, I surely think of getting that one also. I keep on following all progress in the open forum.

rogwild
07-15-2008, 09:47 AM
Also, if the plastic bodies for the RC are too expensive (for small volume production), or take longer to produce; we could always make some paper/poster board/thin plastic 'cut-out' bodies, as a temporary solution.:IDEA:

cpaddock
07-15-2008, 12:10 PM
Johnhead, please link us to those posts you mentioned. And Derwin, it is not the software, its the file that has the problem.
Alooooha!

Derwin
07-15-2008, 12:27 PM
And Derwin, it is not the software, its the file that has the problem.
Alooooha!

I don't see how. I actually had it opened when I first received the files from Ian. And MVR opened the files with no problems at all.

Derwin

johnhead
07-15-2008, 03:07 PM
Derwin,
I'm not sure where this older file came from but it showed the top, side, front and rear view of an older design concept. If we could only get a similar drawing to some scale, that would be enought to get me going. I am currently using this older design as a starting point. Going on vaco tomorrow. See everyone next week. Regards
John
http://flytheroadclub.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=345&d=1209163207

Derwin
07-15-2008, 03:34 PM
John....Yeah....Don't use that file! That's a really old file from design C...really early drawing at that.

Doesn't anyone have any files showing the latest version? I would think we had all of that available. I'll have to do some checking.

Derwin

Miracleman89
07-15-2008, 04:50 PM
Derwin- I did some searching last night and came up empty! we are missing the top view and front and back view! we don't have any of these images straight on! if we could get these shots from straight on I could have probably had this project done myself last night! Anyway see if you can find out from Ian if these images are available! If we can get them then the 3d version paper cut project will be a cake walk!

Derwin
07-15-2008, 04:55 PM
MM89... The IGES files give us the view from every angle. They should work perfectly for this little project. We also have that 3-D movie showing the latest design from every angle. Remember that movie? You could move the vehicle around to view it from all angles. It's in this forum somewhere!

Derwin

Miracleman89
07-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Yeah, but can a frame from the movie be made into a jpeg file? I could get it done with jpegs but I am not computer savvy enough to convert all the different files properly nor do I have the right software. If one of the other members can do it then cool. But with out them all being in jpeg format my hands are tied unfortunately! Sorry bro!

WarpedOne
07-16-2008, 03:18 AM
Yeah, but can a frame from the movie be made into a jpeg file?

Yes. I used Apple Quicktime player that supports frame-by-frame play and then just Alt + Print Screen / Paste into MS Paint / Save as Png. IIRC there are 98 frames.

rogwild
07-16-2008, 08:26 AM
Yes, but that 'Quicktime Movie' does NOT have the required "TOP VIEW" to make the 3D cut-out.

Jack Willard
07-28-2008, 09:39 AM
I have made, or can make, any and all views that you might need. I finally did convert those IGES 3D files from Ian into 3D AutoCAD drawings. Now, I can play with it!

PM me with your email address and I'll sent you the views in a zip file.