danbucks
09-14-2008, 11:09 PM
With the introduction of many new fuels and technologies, MPG - and even MPGe - is a weak and confusing standard (note current threads - e.g. Aptera, who really makes it confusing and pretty much unintelligible noise to the uninformed customer, intentionally in their favor as a PHEV).
surely we can do better.
Here is an over-beer stab at a simple rating system:
Measure vehicles simply by the energy (from any source) they consume - i.e. measured in joules or KWh or whatever, not in terms of MPG.
-measure this for the vehicle going 65-75 MPH, flat surface, stationary
-measure this for the vehicle going 25-35 MPH (or wherever wind resistance becomes negligible in terms of energy consumption), at 9-11% grade (or something close to that, a function of inclines used today for most roads)
-measure this for the vehicle going from 0-35 MPH and back down to 0 in K seconds, where K is within an *allowed range* centered around E(traffic stop/go across the entire US)
note: energy consumed in the measured above should be the COMPLETE energy lost *creating* fuel/energy source, and "burning"/using it, to achieve measurements above.
The vehicle gets three numbers that are standardized (units, and background can be stripped for the confused, non-scientific buyers):
1) "highway" (somewhat as normal) efficiency - really "aerodynamics", rolling resistance ignored.
2) "climb" (new) efficiency - really efficiency at high sustained load
3) "acceleration" or "stop/go" (replacement for "city") efficiency
TBD: emission rating standards - probably thousands of posts at flytheroad etc. go back and forth on this, since CO2 vs. other emissions vs pollution in creating the energy source in the first place, etc. all come into play.
All of the above can be converted to a MPGe guideline if the consumer is demanding what cost of travel might be.
back to the beer...
surely we can do better.
Here is an over-beer stab at a simple rating system:
Measure vehicles simply by the energy (from any source) they consume - i.e. measured in joules or KWh or whatever, not in terms of MPG.
-measure this for the vehicle going 65-75 MPH, flat surface, stationary
-measure this for the vehicle going 25-35 MPH (or wherever wind resistance becomes negligible in terms of energy consumption), at 9-11% grade (or something close to that, a function of inclines used today for most roads)
-measure this for the vehicle going from 0-35 MPH and back down to 0 in K seconds, where K is within an *allowed range* centered around E(traffic stop/go across the entire US)
note: energy consumed in the measured above should be the COMPLETE energy lost *creating* fuel/energy source, and "burning"/using it, to achieve measurements above.
The vehicle gets three numbers that are standardized (units, and background can be stripped for the confused, non-scientific buyers):
1) "highway" (somewhat as normal) efficiency - really "aerodynamics", rolling resistance ignored.
2) "climb" (new) efficiency - really efficiency at high sustained load
3) "acceleration" or "stop/go" (replacement for "city") efficiency
TBD: emission rating standards - probably thousands of posts at flytheroad etc. go back and forth on this, since CO2 vs. other emissions vs pollution in creating the energy source in the first place, etc. all come into play.
All of the above can be converted to a MPGe guideline if the consumer is demanding what cost of travel might be.
back to the beer...